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  • King David and the "holy spirit"

    After King David sinned with Bathsheba, we find these words in the 51st Psalm: "Cast me not away from thy presence; and take not thy holy spirit from me." Given we are born from above with the Spirit of God, what could he possibly mean?

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    Even though Adamites have the indwelling spirit from God from birth we are still commanded to be filled with the Holy Spirit repeatedly. I see it this way: the spirit that is formed at conception is a container into which the Holy Spirit is poured when we pray for this filling. Evidently we as a race understood this to some extent before it was explained in more detail in the Book of Acts.

    If I am truly White then I have the spirit formed at conception. Now, for example I am not prepared to be burned alive at the stake for my faith. But that is because I'm not being called to make that sacrifice. However, we should have no doubt that when we are called to die or do anything frightening Yahweh will fill us with the Holy Spirit when we ask with a humble spirit and repentant heart so that we can stand and overcome.

    I believe David was pleading with God not to leave him empty and without direction, a state which leads us all to one Bathsheba or another.
    aka Staropramen

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      Your explanation is quite good. What David did not want taken from him was the effectiveness and direction which he knew resulted from the empowerment he received from God after being anointed as king by the Prophet of God (I Samuel 16:13). This couldn't have been fear on David's part of losing the Adamic spirit he was born with when he said, "...take not thy holy spirit from me" in Psalm 51. David knew Saul was previously annointed by Samuel just like he was, receiving this special empowerment of the Spirit of God to be king (I Samuel 10:1-10), David must have also known that God at some point took this away from Saul because of his disobedience (I Samuel 15:1-23). In fact, the very next verse after David was anointed by Samuel to be king, the Bible says, "But the Spirit of the LORD departed from Saul, and an evil spirit from the LORD troubled him" and not long after, Saul began his campaign to destroy David. So the only conclusion is the "holy spirit" David was concerned with having taken away by God was "the Spirit of the LORD" which he received when he was anointed by Samuel to be king, not his Adamic spirit.

      It's interesting because we also see this distinction reflected in Romans 8:16 which says: "The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God." Now recognizing this distinction and how it applied to those anointed by the Prophet of God to be king of Israel in the Old Testament, with Paul carrying it over in the context of every day Israelite believers in the New Testament, how could it apply to us today? For does not Revelation 1:6 proclaim that Christ "hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father"?

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      • Allen Rouse
        Allen Rouse commented
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        The word cosmos means something that functions in a good orderly fashion. The solar system is one example of a cosmos but it's not the only example. A society functioning in accordance with the laws of Yahweh is also a cosmos and THIS is what is meant in John 3:16: For Yahweh so loved the Society, that He gave the most-beloved Son, in order that each who believes in Him would not be lost but would have eternal life. THIS society is what we are called to establish and be kings and priests over. Christ empowered us by His death and resurrection to do this. When we foolishly believe the "God so loved the world/planet" and everything on it tripe we instead strengthen the anti-christ society of beasts and we are ruled over by their satanic kings and priests.
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